Baloo Uriza @BalooUriza@social.tulsa.ok.us

hour or so, and not half an afternoon.

Keep in mind, this is taking into account that at the time of the stop realignment, there were just two stops in the system that were not flag stops.
#OpenStreetMap #TulsaTransit - 2/2

In #OpenStreetMap news. on my journey to map every #TulsaTransit stop, I'm now down to under 500 likely stop locations not surveyed yet.

Being lazy AF, I finally got around to creating https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Baloo_Uriza/lanes

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Really wishing I could get an #Oklahoma address database for #MapWithAI entry into #OpenStreetMap. Or #MagicEarth gets OSM's vehicle size and mode features.

So some rando complains about granular, well categorized changesets with explainations about what's going on because the changeset comments aren't a description of every change in the set? Did I read this right? #StreetComplete #OpenStreetMap

https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/3972

Imagine thinking bike lanes should not count in lanes=* and vehemently arguing that this is a good thing, mostly out of ignorance that width:lanes=* exists. #OpenStreetMap

Guess we're doing the #Introduction thing again so, it's pretty much as advertised in my profile. Currently been posting a lot about #OpenStreetMap #EliteDangerous #RoadGeek #Furry #FursuitFriday #Oklahoma #Tulsa

Man, a lot of folks in #OpenStreetMap are slacking on highway=stop if #Oklahoma has close to 2% of all mapped stop signs in the world...

Seems like we need highway=cycleway and several cycleway=* types at this point. Obviously highway=path is a MUP (no marked lanes) but the core of our network are bike freeways (Creek Turnpike Trail, Mingo Valley Cycleway, Riverparks East/West Cycleway, Katy Trail...)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bike_freeway

Though that might be a good justification for proposed=trunk, since the state clearly aspires to have it be more later, but it's nowhere near there yet and might never be. #OpenStreetMap

But something that doesn't get much traffic, just two lanes punctuated sporatically by at-grade county road intersections in the middle of nowhere, like US 412 in the Oklahoma panhandle? Get real, only the state for largely political reasons (the same ones why Alaska has Interstates that aren't even signed or paved) would even attempt to claim that's more than primary. #OpenStreetMap

Granted, this is to say in general. There might be a reason to bump it up higher, but my general example for this upward creep being without merit would be one of those 65+ MPH rural two lane ranch-to-markets halfway between Marfa and anywhere. Obviously some major boulevard in Dennison that happened to wind up as an 8 lane stroad through the suburbs is going to have a well justified higher rating. #OpenStreetMap

If freeways, proto-freeways and the three largest categories of roads isn't enough above highway=unclassified, maybe have the conversation about adding more highway=* values. Or maybe start having real discussion about something like highway_level=* akin to admin_level=* with the goal of deprecating trying to make everything fit into Britishisms. #OpenStreetMap

Which I suppose is great if you're looking to route everyone down some serious duelling banjos Ranch to Market road, but why would you give it so much weight when there's better options? Crowding the top end is a worse problem than crowding unclassified from a data consumer perspective. #OpenStreetMap

There tends to be an upwards creep in what people keep wanting to tag highway=* as, and ultimately it creates a bigger mess. Just look at Texas, where almost everything is tagged one or two levels higher than they should be. It's actually hard to get a feel for what's actually a major road because you got US and Texas primaries (which every other state would tag as secondary) crowding the top, bumping really silly stuff like Texas' various secondary networks up to secondary. #OpenStreetMap

"But it looks ugly having trunks just dump off into primaries". Not our problem, take it up with the DOT and ask 'em why they have an expressway just dump into a boulevard going through every fiddling village on the way. Map for reality, not your aesthetics. #OpenStreetMap

"Don't tag for the consumer". Yeah, OK, says the folks who are upset that most of the US just doesn't have a lot of high level roads and are trying to make things look way more connected than they actually are. Maybe remember "don't break the consumer" while you're at it and give your idea a tad more thought. #OpenStreetMap

And that's not even to get into the whole ecosystem of apps that have long assumed, quite safely, that highway=trunk in the US is some kind of proto-freeway. Osmand and Rand McNally (both in the app and in print, for example) make this assumption. #OpenStreetMap

"But trunk is one more than primary". Yeah, sure, maybe in the British context, but we don't exactly have trunks in the US, it doesn't translate. Just like they don't have a whole lot in the way of super 2s, surface expressways and single-carriageway freeways that we have rather extensively. #OpenStreetMap

Gotta love folks who are like "But everyone on slack decided we should do this weird thing NE2 got banned for and apply it to everything and expect everyone else to abide" then start a harassment campaign in changeset comments. Super not in the mood for gatekeepers tonight. Or really ever, but especially not tonight. #OpenStreetMap